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		<title>By: easegill</title>
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		<dc:creator>easegill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 10:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ken

I remember the DIY education (Craigmount High) - although there was also stuff at the opposite end of the spectrum.  
One interesting task we had was to work out the petrol consumption for a car driven in each of its gears.  We had our technology teachers car on the rugby field with a large titration tube connected by rubber hose to the carburettor.  Needed to keep the bonnet up as we took it in turns to drive it around the field!  No idea what the teacher was up to - he just left us to it!!  PS we found that driving in 1st gear used least petrol - but that was at a constant speed for all gears so don&#039;t think it was really a fair test.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ken</p>
<p>I remember the DIY education (Craigmount High) &#8211; although there was also stuff at the opposite end of the spectrum.<br />
One interesting task we had was to work out the petrol consumption for a car driven in each of its gears.  We had our technology teachers car on the rugby field with a large titration tube connected by rubber hose to the carburettor.  Needed to keep the bonnet up as we took it in turns to drive it around the field!  No idea what the teacher was up to &#8211; he just left us to it!!  PS we found that driving in 1st gear used least petrol &#8211; but that was at a constant speed for all gears so don&#8217;t think it was really a fair test.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Allan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Allan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 23:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tena koe Nigel

Welcome to winter in the southern hemisphere :-)

Thanks for this plethora of links on edupunk. It must be my age, or perhaps some other disadvantage, but I can&#039;t help getting a measure of &lt;i&gt;deja vu&lt;/i&gt;.

I began my teaching way back in &#039;69. They&#039;d just put men on the Moon. Science was abuzz having enjoyed bumper years from the 50&#039;s of BBC TV slots when &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Baxter&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Raymond Baxter&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Sagan&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Carl Sagan&lt;/a&gt;, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Bronowski, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Moore and other enthusiastic exponents of the &#039;modern&#039; scientific age were given prime time. Books were to be lauded. New books were it.

I’d had an experiential secondary education where my teachers encouraged me and my classmates to pick things to pieces - good old Scottish education but with a &#039;modern&#039; pitch.

We would dismantle television sets and automobile engines, clocks, electric motors, reed organs, anything material that held a mystery. I got my degree from the university of life doing all of that and more.

Those were the days when boys knew the contents of a golf-ball like they did their fingernails, when students were encouraged to aim for the Moon or further. Models were built out of anything we could lay our hands on and used to give insight to what might be, not what&#039;s supposed to be.

I feel at home with edupunk. There’s a grubbiness about it that smacks of the fundamental. Gone are the days of deliberating on the ‘black box’ lesson. Let’s not hang about. Where’s the can opener!

Ka kite
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tena koe Nigel</p>
<p>Welcome to winter in the southern hemisphere <img src='http://easegill.edublogs.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thanks for this plethora of links on edupunk. It must be my age, or perhaps some other disadvantage, but I can&#8217;t help getting a measure of <i>deja vu</i>.</p>
<p>I began my teaching way back in &#8216;69. They&#8217;d just put men on the Moon. Science was abuzz having enjoyed bumper years from the 50&#8217;s of BBC TV slots when <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Baxter" rel="nofollow">Raymond Baxter</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Sagan" rel="nofollow">Carl Sagan</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Bronowski" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Bronowski</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Moore" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Moore</a> and other enthusiastic exponents of the &#8216;modern&#8217; scientific age were given prime time. Books were to be lauded. New books were it.</p>
<p>I’d had an experiential secondary education where my teachers encouraged me and my classmates to pick things to pieces &#8211; good old Scottish education but with a &#8216;modern&#8217; pitch.</p>
<p>We would dismantle television sets and automobile engines, clocks, electric motors, reed organs, anything material that held a mystery. I got my degree from the university of life doing all of that and more.</p>
<p>Those were the days when boys knew the contents of a golf-ball like they did their fingernails, when students were encouraged to aim for the Moon or further. Models were built out of anything we could lay our hands on and used to give insight to what might be, not what&#8217;s supposed to be.</p>
<p>I feel at home with edupunk. There’s a grubbiness about it that smacks of the fundamental. Gone are the days of deliberating on the ‘black box’ lesson. Let’s not hang about. Where’s the can opener!</p>
<p>Ka kite<br />
from Middle-earth</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 14:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Easegill,

&lt;blockquote&gt;What I do know is that the beliefs, realisations, understandings happenings, events of the ideals of edupunk can be important in the same way that Dada and surrealism were important, that Ike Turner and Elvis Presley were important, that Thomas Paine and Abie Hoffman were important and that Hutton and Darwin were important. These are not trivial names to be raising - that is because education is such an important thing for life, for freedom, for happiness that it can’t be taken lightly.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Awesome, and to make it something even remotely akin to any of these we have to create from it, and not worry about being part any group, or even the term.  But creatively fashion our values about something I wholeheartedly agree with about the importance of, education. 

Thanks for this, you give it  context that makes my spine tingle :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Easegill,</p>
<blockquote><p>What I do know is that the beliefs, realisations, understandings happenings, events of the ideals of edupunk can be important in the same way that Dada and surrealism were important, that Ike Turner and Elvis Presley were important, that Thomas Paine and Abie Hoffman were important and that Hutton and Darwin were important. These are not trivial names to be raising &#8211; that is because education is such an important thing for life, for freedom, for happiness that it can’t be taken lightly.</p></blockquote>
<p>Awesome, and to make it something even remotely akin to any of these we have to create from it, and not worry about being part any group, or even the term.  But creatively fashion our values about something I wholeheartedly agree with about the importance of, education. </p>
<p>Thanks for this, you give it  context that makes my spine tingle <img src='http://easegill.edublogs.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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